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 Post subject: win7 japanese ime suddenly stopped working
PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 03:49 

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Hi all,

I'm very new to the Japanese language and japan-activator, but it is by far the nicest tool I've found to learn Japanese.
Recently I ran into some problems with the Japanese IME on Win7 (x64), and cannot find anything relevant by Googling.
So I thought I might ask here. I understand that this might not be the right forum for this, so my apologies if this violates forum rules or TOS.

My default system language is US ENG, bus I use a keyboard with a dutch/french layout.
Since so many users here are french, hence also using an azerty layout, i assume chances are higher that I might encounter someone here that has experienced the same problem.

So up until a few days ago, I was able to switch the IME to Japanese, and select hiragana as input method, which would then enable me to type in romanji/phonetically, and the correct kana would appear.
For example, typing "a" would produce "あ", typing "na" would produce "な" and so forth..

Now it seems that it thinks my keyboard layout is Japanese, and every key has its own kana.
For Example, typing "a" produces "た", typing "z" produces "て", etc..
Same thing for katakana mode.

I am not able to revert to the first described method of input. I am not able to locate any additional settings that would allow me to change this behavior (there aren't that many settings).

I've tried removing and re-adding the Japanese keyboard under "Text Services and Input Languages", but the problem persists.
I cannot locate any additional settings that might influence the input behavior.

I'm thinking I might of pressed some (badly documented) key combination or something that might have led to this ?

Any input on how to solve the problem would be appreciated.

Thank You,
Regards,
Bob


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 Post subject: Re: win7 japanese ime suddenly stopped working
PostPosted: Thu 27 Dec 2012, 19:40 

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So you are using a AZERTY keyboard and not a QWERTY keyboard?
Your Windows7 works in English I think.
IME worked fine before?

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 Post subject: Re: win7 japanese ime suddenly stopped working
PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 15:11 

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Hi shiroiookami,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I'm using an azerty keyboard on this box, and my default system language is US English.
However when I switch the IME to Japanese on the language toolbar, my keyboard layout now becomes Japanese.
Before, the keyboard layout stayed the same (azerty), but i was able to type hiragana/katakana in romanji, like described in my first post.

It seems to have started after a windows update. I've found one other article on msdn, where someone has the exact same issue, but MS's suggestion of doing a system restore is not a solution in my opinion. It would probably revert to the current situation anyway after the system re-installs the updates.

I'm still hoping another solution will pop up.

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Bob


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 15:32 

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Hello thygate

I did some online research on this problem and they say that you can use the small toggle buttons "caps" and "kana" on your toolbar to switch between both input methods.
http://superuser.com/questions/37134/japanese-ime-on-windows-switch-back-to-romaji-input-method


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Jan 2013, 05:44 

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Hi Firithfenion,

Thanks for the research and reply!
I had already found that article, but went over it a little fast because most of the key combinations have no effect.
Now I seem to have been able to solve the issue by detaching the language bar from the task bar.
I did not notice this before, but there are a few extra options visible when it is detached.
There I could select "Properties for Microsoft IME", which gave me a whole new dialog with options.
There I was able to select Romanji as input method, and now everything is back like before.

Again Thanks! Problem solved.

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Bob


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 Post subject: Re: win7 japanese ime suddenly stopped working
PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2013, 16:37 

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OK you found the regulations IME. When you write in Japanese your keyboard is QWERTY and not AZERTY.
It works?

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 Post subject: Re: win7 japanese ime suddenly stopped working
PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 05:06 

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Hi shiroiookami,

Yes, you are right! When in Japanese mode the keyboard is in a QWERTY layout.
I switch between azerty and qwerty so often i did not even notice this.
For example, typing "た" requires me to type 't' and 'q' instead of 't' and 'a'.
I'm used to both azerty and qwerty layouts, so this does not bother me.

Thanks for pointing that out, I thought I'd confirm it here for completeness.


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